Has anyone ever come across a bobbin hanger that doesn't eat up 1'- 2' of thread every time you go to use it. I Hate! the one that came with my Dyna King vice.
hcmiller (Bud)
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Has anyone ever come across a bobbin hanger that doesn't eat up 1'- 2' of thread every time you go to use it. I Hate! the one that came with my Dyna King vice.
hcmiller (Bud)
hcmiller:
I dont know what type you have but the one that came with my [url=http://renzetti.com/home.php?cat=305:18064]Renzetti[/url:18064] is adjustable both on the vise stem and its position in relation to the hook eye.
I keep mine about 1/2" or less from the hook eye and it works just fine for me.
rite but swing it around and the thread length changes
Well I never have that problem because I ONLY use the bobbin cradle when I am using the rotary feature.
When tying in materials, etc my bobbin hangs below the hook, in the way, like it always did BEFORE I went rotary. Swinging any bobbin cradle will cause your thread to "extend" longer than you want.
I suggest that IF you like to use the bobbin cradle all the time that you investigate an automatic bobbin like the [url=http://www.ekichbobbin.com/:e83e5]Ekich[/url:e83e5].
HC,
I'm with you on the vise stem mounted cadles, they are mounted in the wrong place.
In A.K. Best's book, Production Fy Tying, he shows an example of a bobbin cradle that solves this problem.
The 'key' is a cradle that pivots directly under the the eye of the hook. Then, when you 'swing' it to one side, the thread length stays the same.
I built mine from an old vise clamp, a piece of doweling, and some wire. Since you can make your own, you get to decide how far away from the hook eye the cradle is.
I wouldn't try to tie without mine.
Check out the book, if you haven't got it. Lots of great information on tools and bench set up that you'll not see elsewhere.
Good Luck!
Buddy
Buddy,
You know exactly what I'm talking about !!!!! I'm going to go to my book store and check it out. Thanks
That's the beauty of automatic bobbins. With them (either Ekitch or Nor) it "don't make no never mind" where the bobbin hanger is positioned. They'll spoil you for regular bobbins.
Will
A.K. also says you can use a tall and heavy glass or mug for a cradle and hang your bobbin in it. When your not using it put it somewhere out of the way......or fill it with what it was really meant for. If you fill it with the right beverage it will make your flies look better. :wink:
Joe
Joe, you mean if I drink more & more & more & mo..........my flies will look as good as AK's 8)
Buddy,
That's exactly what I want. I'm going to put it together this week. A.K. Best's book, "Production Fly Tying" page 8 if anyone else cares to see what were talking about.
hc,
YES!!! At least until the next morning. Something always gets to them during the night and screws them up something awful.
Joe
Try an Ekich (an FAOL sponsor) automatic bobbin.
Don
Don0 no thanks I've got enough toys besides I like my bobbins.
Why do you swing your bobbin holder around with the bobbin on it---Usually you halfhitch hang the bobbin and use the rotary to add material then take off the bobbin and swing the holder out of the way.. BILL
Oh just wrapping material by hand on the hook. when not using rotary mode
why do you half hitch all the time?
I have a Montana Mongoose and I've never had a problem. If too much thread is out, I just reel it back in with my thumb.
What is an automatic bobbin? I am intrigued.
Semper Fi!
:? I'm confused...not surprizing...but why don't you just let the bobbin hang down vertically?
Duckster,
Ther are times when it's nice to have the bobbin out of the way.
Pushing it off to about 45 degrees from the eye when hackling a dry fly, for instance, seems to give me more room for my fat fingers.
If you use glues while tyiing, having the bobbin behind the fly with the thread parallel to the table keeps the glue from runing down the thread and making a horrible mess in the tube....
Stuff like that.
Buddy
Buddy, I was responding to this post...several posts got between that I wasn't aware of...hc sounds like he wants to hang it all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by hcmiller
hc...Bill is talking about when using the rotary feature...if you half hitch then when you rotate the thread doesn't come loose or wrap around the hook...Al Beatty has a clever way of not doing that.
Hi Bud & group,
This information assumes you don't have an automatic bobbin:
You don't have to "pull out the thread" to drape the bobbin over the bobbin hanger. Instead lower the level of the hanger and place the back end of the bobbin/thread spool on the hanger. Adjust the height of the hanger until the "tip of the bobbin barrel" is in-line with the hook eye. Rotate the vise to complete your tying function, retrieve the bobbin from the hanger, push it (the hanger) out of the way, and continue tying (without having to "twist back the spool" on the bobbin arms). Using this technique your thread is alway at "working length." Keep an eye on Fly Tyer magazine for this and other tips. Take care & ...
Tight Lines - Al Beatty
www.btsflyfishing.com
Thanks Al, the way you just explained is the way I've been doing it for years. This post is really starting to get comical...all I wanted to know is if anybody ever came across a "BETTER" bobbin hanger than what is supplied with 99.9% ((and I don't care who manufactures it)) vises sold today.
Buddy Sanders, thank you for the information. I threw together one last night and it works perfectly. Now I'm going to build one for keeps.
I don't just use the hanger for rotary work, I like the 12+ bobbins I have been using for the past 6-7 years & to be honest I'm quite happy with my techniques of tying. But hey, thanks for all the rest of your input.....hcmiller (Bud)