xi,
I'm glad you're finally "out of the closet", man. Keep it coming. This is good stuff.
Robert
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xi,
I'm glad you're finally "out of the closet", man. Keep it coming. This is good stuff.
Robert
Hi John,
IMHO BigCliff and Xi hit it dead on! I'm beginning to get to the point where my casting is very controllable and predicatable and have also been overlining some of my rods by 1 wt.
This should maybe be reconsodered however, especially given BigCliffs example! I was going for more distance and his explanation makes perfect sense!
Hmmm. Dammit...It all boils down to that same ol' "Learn to cast properly" credo then doesn't it!
At a recent "cast off" in a local tennis dome this winter, one of Minnesota's best casters got hold of my sage 9' 3wt SP loaded with 4wt SYLK line and was answering some questions for me.
He gave a few demo casts with this outfit, paused and remarked "Damn, this is one fine setup you have here"...
Again, confusion! ;-))
I'll heed the advise given here.
Thanks,
Jeremy.
The Sylk line is known for being on the light side. This may actually mean that it is in the middle of the allowed weight range for a given line weight while the other lines on the market are at the top of the allowable range. This means that there is really only half or less of a "weight" difference between a 3wt GPX and a 4wt Sylk.
The Sylk is also of a smaller diameter, which may lead one to think that it is actually a lighter weight than it is. I think they achieved this by building it on a GSP core. I sure hope you didn't screw up that Sylk line on that tennis court!
If stating "facts" rather than opinion were my intention, I would not have used "is known for" and "may actually mean". Feel free to call me on it when I am stating incorrect information or opinion as though it is fact, but that is not what was done in this case.
I didn't intend to promote the line mentioned, but rather just intended to explain the effects of the fact that a given "weight" of line is not going to have an exact weight, but just be within a range of acceptable weights.
JC, I greatly appreciate all that you have done over the years to create, support, and maintain this site. I also think that one of the biggest benefits of this site is its wealth of information, both objective and subjective, that help all of us make purchases and become better at this sport.
Thanks BigCliff. Great explanation and I appreciate it. I can't work hard enough on my casting strokes. I really love it, especially in wintertime when it gets d--m COLD here in Mn. Still, I make "snow snakes" in my back yard!
And no, that indoor court was covered in pads like the wrestlers use. It made for a superb day in the very early spring. I'll remember days like that when I get old and can't fish! My definition of hell!
Thank you again.
Jeremy.
Hummm so is it a St.Croix thing or what??...lol..cause I have an older 7'6" 3wt Ledgend that I've been tossing a 5wt. Mastery line on for almost as long as I've owned the rod,and the same reel is also my reel for my Diamondback 9' 4wt. All American.
And both of these rods seem near perfect for me and my casting stroke,On the other hand I also have a redington 9'6" 7wt that I throw a 6wt. Headstart line on and I can throw the backing knot 30ft out the tip top on the open river for smallies...So I await that article next week with great enthuseium Miss Ladyfisher...
I've seen Ted Leeson "recamend" (overlining) in american Angler many times...many many times in the time I was a subscriber of that publication..and I think as many a flyfisher does,that his opinion weighs heavily in mine and others decisions. Either way,I'll not change the way I fish any of these rods..I like em just as they are ;-)
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As I think I noted in my first post I cast the St Croix LU at the "shop" for a bit before I bought it. However, after fishing it for a full day I found I wasn't as fond of the fast action as I origionally thought. Therefore, the quick fix was to overline it - thereby slowing the action down. That seemed a better option than parking a $300 rod in the closet. Perhaps with summer [and warm weather] I'll put the 4 wgt line back on it and spent the time and try to pick up the timing. Perhaps not. Actually it casts a 5 wgt very well. I may end up preferring it as a new 5 wgt rather than as a 4 wgt. But I don't see any damage being done by uplineing one size. I've done it numerous times and have 30 + year old rods that I've always overlined and they show no damage. So I guess I'll just continue as I always have.
Donald
Jeremy,
How do you like your SYLK Line????..I have a number of old Bamboo rods with the small size guides and was thinking of trying those lines on em,But I'll admitt to being the sceptical type,as I tend to avoid "new" or "improved" things till I've heard positive word on there effectiveness and reliability.
,Bill
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J.C. I have more trust in you and Ladyfisher than you can possibly know...lol....that said....
the overlining mentioned in the article which I've read and am proud to say I've long since learned all of those things...Patience is the one thing that I can honestly say MUST be learned..and it'll only come with age...the only refferance I seen was of over lining in the LB.Test way....
yes if lined to heavily and jarred with alot of overpowering then I can see where there can be a risk of rod failure...but a line size over is not the end of the world,Nore is it going to hurt unless one is very heavy handed and over powering on the cast...
I've had a rod or two break, abnd yes as I read the article I seen where I'd failed with a very large Rainbow trout on...thank goodness for warrenties my 7'6 St.Croix ledgend survives to this day.I did'nt bow to her,but she was no sooner on and shot out of the water on the hookset (snap)!!!
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I feel I should post an update on the St Croix LU rod - an 8' 4 wgt - that I was uplining. This week has been too cold and windy for fishing but has been warm enough to spend some time in the backyard cleaning up the wife's flowerbeds and casting the LU rod [in between wind gusts of 35 mph!!]. I've picked up the timing on the rod and now find it very pleasant to cast with the 4 wgt line. Perhaps the first trip of the season when we're reaaaalllly anxious to catch that first fish of the year isn't the best time to break out the new rod you haven't cast much!! **G**
However, still think it's worthwhile to try a line size on either side of the marked line if you're having problems casting. Just my thoughts.
Donald