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Ray,
Well said, ... that's how I got rid of my trailing loop http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/smile.gif
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Not to be rude or put anybody down .. but after reading this post my mind wandered to an older crotchety feller I use to fish with when I was about 12 or so.. his words ring back loud and clear ...."shut up and fish already ".... Guess I never think about this stuff when im fishing ...but then again im not the greatest caster .. but I still have fun. Have a great day , think im going fishing tonight.
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Mike
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Mike,
Not taken as a put down either http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/smile.gif
As I mentionned in an article, ... casting isn't really that important in most situations, ... FISHING is.
While I'm FISHING, ... if I start thinking about the casting I'm doing, ... usually I end up with a #8 Bomber in the back of my hat! (same thing if I think about the office, the bills, ... anything).
I guess that's one of the reasons we all love fly FISHING so much. We LOOK at the target and the fly just goes there. We look at the run and the line just mends like it should.
I love this sport !!
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Christopher Chin, Jonquiere Quebec
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Ray,
I'll have to disagree with you.
" Start the forwad cast as soon as your rod has finished unloading. (Remember your rod must ALLWAYS be in a constant state of loading and unloading.)
If I am carrying 60 feet or more of line into my backcast I will have to give the line time to (almost) straighten behind me after the stop of power application before I start the forward cast. During this time the rod will be either stationary or drifting to the rear with no load on the rod.
Most tailing loops are caused by too much power applied too soon.
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gathering form what Hans and Ray have said, maybe that is my problem, then. Maybe I wait too long to start the forward cast and the "shock" is what is causing me to lose distance and accuracy.
Mike, I do go fishing and I do have fun, but when I am trying to correct something that is out of place or wrong, then I think about it, and I find that usually I have just as much fun and get just as much satisfaction once I have remedied the situation.
Tight lines
Jeff
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Hey Folks,
Regardless of whether you choose to
watch your backcast unroll, I think Jeff
asked a good question. Reading through
the responses, which one is right? They
are not all in agreement.
I know in his Intro to Flycasting,
Terry Gunn says "let the line extend fully
behind you on the backstroke and accelerate
into your forward stroke prior to the rod
unloading." Does the rod start unloading
prior to this point or does it stay loaded
until the line is fully extended? I believe
the latter based on my observations. It
seems to me that the rod is loaded with the
line fully extended, and that the momentum
of the backcast can and does continue to
load the rod after the line is extended.
I don't claim to be an expert on anything
but these are my observations, right or
wrong. Someone set me straight, please, and
give Jeff a concise answer that he can
repeat with confidence. Just stirring the
pot.*G* Warm regards, Jim
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Imagine we're false-casting... My suggestion would be to consider at which point in the forward cast you begin the next backcast- Has the line "unfurled" completely?, or is there still a little roll in the end as you begin to raise for the backcast? My line (but not my rod) is usually always completely flat out and loading the rod at the moment my arm begins to pull into the backcast. So, it should be the same in the back as it is in the front.
It might help if you hum a tune while you cast, casting to the steady rythm. For the musically challenged- beware!
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Ok, after some thought here is what I have come up with. Often times when you make either a back or forward cast,if the line hasn't unrolled and you apply too much power you, or at least I, often will hear a snap or whip-like crack, which too my understanding is not good. I understand that you want your backcast to mirror your forward cast. I like the idea of humming a tune, but as you increase the line in the air this gets difficult. I think that the rod is still loaded while the line is straight out, at least for a time, obviously it will unload as the momentum of the line is diminished. So from the answers I have read here my assumption is this. Timining is critical, and one should begin either the forward or backcast when the line has gone straight, and yet not stopped moving. I guess I'll just have to sting up the rod and try a little of both to see what happens. I appreciate the responses. As far as line watching goes, I think it is a good thing, but getting the feel of a rod and line working together is a much more valuable thing, and will allow an angler to keep his eyes on the target and thus make adjustments at the last minute if need be.
Tight lines
Jeff
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dead fish don't make reel music
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Hi Jeff,
I'm inclined to agree with your last
posting. I'm also pretty sure you have a
future in politics.*G* Warm regards, Jim
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Jim,
lets hope not, I've never really taken much interest in politics, nor would I want to become the type of person that I believe many of our politicians are, not all but many.
Tight lines
Jeff
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dead fish don't make reel music