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Thanks Duckster!
I actually figured it out after I wrote my post. but was to lazy to remove it.
I'll blame the lazyness on my age.
I's be interested in how mono furled leaders compare? it seems everybody who makes furled leaders on this forum use thread, and commercial furled leaders are mono. How come?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Cramer
All mono furled leaders retain some degree of stiffness compared to thread furled leaders. This stiffness negates many of the adavantages afforded by the thread furled leaders such as memory free, soft presentation etc. Where presentation is not critical, such as salt water fishing, mono furled leaders are quite useful.
Thread also allows the leader maker many more options in the leader design. for example one of my most useful and popular tapers is a five step taper with 22 strands in the butt. Using even 2 pound test mono would give me a butt section testing about 50 pounds and being too heavy/ thick for trout fly fishing. ( FYI: Furling many strands will yield a higher breaking strength than the sum of the individual strands)
As to why commercial manufactors use mono I would guess that they believe that mono leaders will be more readily accepted by the general public. It takes a leap of faith to change to a visible leader if you have used nothing but mono all your life.
Do any of you sell furled leaders? You've convinced me that thread is better, but I don't know where to buy them.
I see you use floatant to make them float for dries. Can you just not use floatant for nymphs? Do any of you use the little rings?
Pete,
Yes, I sell furled leaders. Please check you message center.
Regards,
Jim Cramer
jimcramer@sbcglobal.net
I am very interested in this subject. I have never tried furled leaders and have never seen them at any of my local shops. If anyone is interested to spare a few I would be more than happy to send you a couple of bucks.
I typically use a 3w with a 12ft 7x leader. I fish dries and nymphs. Would furled leaders be good for this application? Also, where I fish the trouts are VERY spooky.
I have tied some (KATHY SCOTTS formula) in Coats and Clark NYLON (clear or smoked) in .004 and .005. Not as soft as UNI but real close and definitly softer than mono. Cheap also.
As for sales in stores, I always think that's interesting.
Maybe its a little like cane fly rods - the people who make them usually either have a waiting list /backlog or they give them away to friends. I have some in a few shops, but I sure don't see furled leaders much in other places. With no commercial backing for the resurgence of such a grassroots but IMHO effective craft, anglers who see no ads in magazines (maybe Blue Sky, maybe Feathercraft) don't ask at shops, probably. I'm sure everyone who tries them and also likes them is puzzled with their "underground" existance.
Darrel Martin's new book gives a nice illustrated nod to them, and Jim Cramer has certainly written of them for years, but basically, there's just word of mouth and support (like here on FAOL), as well as the demos many of us do at gatherings and shows. That lack of information is why we made the dvd in the first place :-)
Just musings,
Kat
Hello Kathy Scott, well furled leaders are catching on as I've seen them being used and asked about them as far west as Oregon on the Umpqua River and the gentleman that was telling me about them was up from the greater Los Angeles area. So I'd say they're catching on fast !
Cheers,
MontanaMoose