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Hans, That one has gone into my "Save As"... stat...your earlier link showed the method but I appreciate the rationale ...in fact, Steven's reference .the Benchside Reference shows it too....going to try that for sure...Thanks.
Just a mention about the EZ holder for folks not familiar ....I was introduced to that years ago and unfortunately went with an inexpensive one...it's one of the reasons I got turned off of gripping the tip quill...the metal hook that it has can have a sharp lip or burr that actually cuts through the quill...you can file that but it may not be worth it ...get a good one...
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I also tie my soft hackles in by the tip and fold the feather as I turn it around the hook with great results. I have also tried Hans approach with good results as well. But my only problem with the way Hans discribed is, if you happen to break the feather stem while wrapping. It is under the body of the fly making it more difficult to start over.
If you tie in at the front with the tip or even the butt and break off the stem you can easily unwrap and start over. Just an observation!
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Obviously I haven't even done Han's suggested method yet but cctyer it seems to me that if you break off as you describe you are at a point where you can just tie off forward just as you would have anyway.
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Yep your back to square one just tie it like you normally would, except that you will have a larger head!
The method Han's shows is the same method Leisenring used.
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[This message has been edited by Jim Slattery (edited 17 February 2006).]
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I tried to argue with Hans about this in the chat room until I tried it. Now I'm preaching to the local tiers and converting them. Everyone that tries this method for both wets and dries absolutely loves it.
Jeremy
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Basically My point duckstream! You can tie either way and get good results but sometimes those little stems on partridge feathers don't like to cooperate. Anywho as long as the end result catches fish it's all good.
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"A smart man learns from his mistakes,
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one questions leads to another:
many of the instructions say to tie-in the hackles on top (or near the top)of the hook shank, sometimes bringing the hackles through the "V" of the wing. any advantage to rotating the vise and tying the hackles from the bottom of the shank below the wings?