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In the infancy of my FF passion, I used the metal eyelets exclusively and I thought everyone else did too. The problems with them were the difficulty in pushing them into the flyline end, the fraying/hinging ( eventually) of the flyline at the needle point of the eyelet. There is NO way they would fail by pulling out. I don't recall having an added weight problem either.
At the time I considered them a convenient, neat way to attach line to leader. I still have a few varied sizes in my flybox "just in case".
Mark
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I'd rather be in Wyoming!
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My first outfit came with a few of those metal eyes. I had a hell of a time getting the cursed little things into the end of the line without bending them or sticking myself. It's nail knots w/ a dab of pliobond for me....
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Hey Marco, DT,
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one
that had problems putting the eyelets on the
end of a flyline. I probably bent/broke
more of the darned things over the years
than I was able to successfully install in
the line tips.*G* Warm regards, Jim
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I used those darn things years ago too. I liked the way the line and leader came together without a big lump as is the case with loop to loop. I don't remember any problems with them other than those already expressed above.
My favorites now are a simple streamside tie or a nail knot. If I want to change leaders frequently, I believe that JC's Line to loop is the best I've seen.
The best Idea is to use what you're comfortable with but I'd avoid loop to loop on shallow runs under clear water conditions.
Ol' Bill
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I got a bunch of them for about a buck. I stopped using them when loops came out on lines. I just keep adding tippet material for a while and then rebuild the leader I use off of that.
I still have some of the metal inserts someplace.
Rick
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P.O.J.,
I don't know how many years ago it was that I used one of those little thingees, but I can tell you two things: 1)They don't come out unless you cut them off; and 2)You have to use a knot to attach the butt of any leader. That creates a bit of bulk that I didn't like.
If you do not find the knot for attaching the leader to the line bothersome, use one of those thingees. Personally, I prefer the Krazy Glue splice.
Allan
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As many have stated I used them for a few years...The reason I switched to Nail knots is really very simple..when one had to be replaced on the water it was difficult..It did not happen often but after a while the line would break right behind it.
Hinging and such is the prob there,They can be a real bear to get into the end of a line.
And if your in the middle of a hatch at dusk,Digging to find your spare..if you have not lost the wee bugger...and sitting there in low light without the right tools it can get frustrateing...lol..and a nail knot is faster,Lighter and does not cause a hinge effect...NEVER Had one pull out of the line, Not once !
I have had those slip on braided loop things slip off the end of my line while fighting a smallish Smallie, Never did like the bulk of those things either.
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"I've often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before" A.K.Best
Everyone wants to excel in this sport but at the same time we let traditionalists place restrictions on our tactics, methods, and ideas. I always assumed that fly fishing was a sport that allowed imagination, creation, adaptation, investigation, dedication, education, revelation? : Fox Statler, On Spinners (Not the dainty Dry Fly kind) "Spinner'd Minner Fly"
"Wish ya great fishing"
Bill
[This message has been edited by billknepp (edited 16 December 2005).]
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Back in 1960 when I started fly fishing those metal eyelets were the only way I knew to attach a leader other than tying a knot in the end of my flyline and tying the leader behind the knot. Iused level line and didn't hear of weight forward line and nail knots until 1998. The eyelets were a pain getting into the line but I knew of no other way. Now I whip a loop on the end of the line and use loop to loop.
Larry