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Wow! this thread went way off on a tangent! With so many loyal Cabela's customers certainly there has to be more reviews of their line of rods. I hear so much talk of the Name brands and not much of Cabela's on this BB, which is the reason I posted the original question.
DG, you mention that even if another company makes the cabelas blank, the cabelas rod would not be the same as that of the manufacturers. Why is that? Doesn't the performance of the rod lie in the blank? or are you implying that it would not be the same blank, just the same maker?
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FL...good research on the example but Harbor Freight does not have the Aquarium or the wonderful wildlife mounts (those magnificent animals taken outa the gene pool by trophy hunters).
If those amenities I mention entice some one who is to lazy to do the research you did to buy from Cabela's who is smarter Cabela's or Harbor Frt?
The Cabela brothers got their start after buying left over inventory from Herters when that company went out of business. Leon Chandler called on them when they were working out of their house and made sales presentations on their kitchen table. They built a business that IMO is well conceived and at great risk to their personel finances...you're saying they are not entitled to a profit? Or to set their own profit margins? Or that they are not entitled to become wealthy?
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Thanks Hex. We should all take a stand and speak out against right wing extremist organizations such as the National Alliance.
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Those are similar products but they are not the same. There is a 100 lbs difference in the weight capacity and it looks like the Cabela's model comes with a platform and also a retaining bar for ATVs. I don't know if that makes up for the additional 60 bucks but if we need to pay attention to details we should actually look at them.
I think that is the point everyone is trying to make here, attention to detail. Like who wrote that article, why, and factual backing.
Anyway, Cabela's let me return a fly rod just because I didn't like it. There was nothing wrong with it. I just wanted a different one. They offered to return my money but instead I just exchanged it for a different rod. Not many places would do that let alone offer to give you your money back!
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Rob P
I'm no expert by any means. But I would imagine that different rod companies bid on making rods for Cabelas according to their (Cabelas) specifications. If GLoomis wins the bid for a particular line then that's who makes them. But they may not necessarily be identical to a GLoomis rod. Does this make sense?
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anglerdave,
I understand what your saying. I guess I pose this question because of what I read in an earlier thread(who makes the rod blanks for most companies), that the one person had inside info that the cabelas FT was the same blank as the Loomis GL3. If the blank was the same, how much different could the rod be? If this were true.
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Cabelas is wonderful. I've never had a problem with them. I've returned stuff without a receipt, past warranty, and they've never given me a problem. Their stuff is great most of the time, and if it isn't just send it back. I have 4 Cabelas rods, and they're all great.
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Never saw so many people jump to conclusions on both sides without
any of the facts verified we should be better people than this
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Rob P
Cabelas shows their FT as a fast action rod. Yet if you go out to GLoomis' web site and look at the GL3, it is rated as a moderate fast action. Now I haven't cast the FT so I don't know how fast a rod it is. But I have the GL3 and it is what I would call a med/fast action. In fact looking at Loomis' website, they rate that rod as a medium action fast taper. Again Loomis could build the FT rod to the specs given to them by Cabelas. It's hard to say. I think it would be a stretch to say that if you buy a Cabelas FT you are getting a GL3. Different components and so forth. Of course it could be the same rod and you're paying an extra $60 for the Loomis name.
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It could be the other parts they use to make the rod like eyes , reel seat and things like that. All so some might be there 2 nds or not but I think the main thing is differnt hardware. I have the 3 forks presteige combo in 3 wt I love the rod and if I had the money I'd keep buying there rods. I thought there fly lines that have there name on it was made by cortland? No shure if thats right or not But my line that came with my combo has lasted going on 3 yrs with no problems with it either. Hope this was the type of answer you wanted to here. Later Matt
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To each there own !
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Rob, it was a friend of mine that works at the KC Cabelas store that told me that the FT was a GL3. The difference comes in the components as far as I can tell. Different guides, cork, and reel seat can mak a difference in the price of the rod, but the action should be the same. However, consider that the whole idea of a "fast, moderate/fast, or moderate" speed rod must be made in relation to the other models that the particular company manufactures or sells. Additonally, I have bought 2 GL# blanks for $35 each in the past year that were not blemished in any way at all, they were just several years old. The do not resemblew the finish on more recent rods at all, so maybe the OEM guys are changing thier own pieces, or producing exclusively for certqin outlets.
whatever the situation, Cabelas has a customer for life in me, if for nothing other than the personal service that I get from the srore here near me.
Peace.
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In many ways the internet is a wonderful thing. As an example, while writing this, I am carrying on a conversation with my youngest son who is in the Air Force, stationed in Korea. On the other hand the internet can resemble the writings usually found on bathroom walls, ie: the unworthy rantings of fools and malcontents from all walks of life. Did you ever actually believe that "For a good----call Debby at ###-##-####" was true?
LB
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Rob,
I have a Cabelas SLi and I would put it up against a Sage, Orvis, or any other rod in looks and performance and be totally happy. Many of those who actually have a higher end Cabelas rod like the Sli, FT, and PT may know what I am talking about. Several who haven't actually used these rods may be skeptical.
The true test is for those who are curious enough to actually cast one of these rods right after they cast a Sage or one of their favorite rods. Many will will be very surprised at what they discover.
There are rod makers who have told me that the SLi blanks are remarkably similar to the Loomis rods. It would not surprise me if Loomis was a part of the process.
Best Regards,
Jamie
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"You can "make those Cabela brothers rich" if you want to but I'm willing to wager these are the exact same products manufactured in the same Chinese factory."
Where you been hidin' out? Playing paddy-cakes with your friend Pedro and the inept management of that other board that's supposed to be for fly fishing? Anyways, good to see you.
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Benjo
So I take it when someone calls and wants to book a trip. The first question you ask is whose rod do you fish with? If it's Cabelas then I imagine you would turn them down. I bet that the same thing goes with the flys they fish with. No "white trash" flys allowed in your drift boat.
While I would hope you would find by St Croix LU rod as acceptable, you would most likely be embarrassed when I showed up wearing my Cabelas waders and boots. So as not to cause you any undue stress, I will scratch you off my list as a potential guide on my next trip out to Yellowstone.
Cheers!
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I have a cabela's three forks 8'6" 6 wt that his a great rod. I got it as my first rod in a package kit for about $60. It has served me well in a lot of situations.
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My long held belief is that the Cabela's SLI is a Gloomis product, the FT is made by Diamondback and the PT by St Croix. By no stretch could anyone mistake a FT for a GL3. The FT is much much faster. The SLI by comparison is much like the GL3 with a very soft tip.
Bill V
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"The SLI by comparison is much like the GL3 with a very soft tip."
Never in my life have I heard the words "soft tip" and "GL3" in the same sentence.
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7Star,
You are exactly 100% wrong about these being different and one having an ATV carrier etc.
Look on page 262 of Cabela's Master Spring Catalog about halfway up the page on the left hand side. The ad has/says nothing to do about an ATV hauler or any other "gizmo" attachment.
I cannot be more specific than I already have.
BOTH have a 350# rating just as I mentioned in my previous thread. These items are both so identical it isn't funny and yes, both came with a red plastic flag .... whoopee!
Now, if you'd like me to rip the page out of both catalogs and snail mail them to you I will. Or, you can take my word for what I'm telling you.
You cannot not find the truck bed extender in Cabela's unless I typed in the item number ... it is for your own typing pleasure ... DF-51-2499. The link I posted to the item doesn't even work anymore.
The price ... $109.99 for nothing more than Harbor Freight sells.
Waste your time if you must but I'm tellin' you like it is ... not how you think it is.
Gil
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Oh, almost forgot ... the Cabela's catalog I'm referring to is the 2005 Edition II
By the way, Cabela's is one of the very reasons I started tying my own flies. The first flies I ever bought from any one was Cabela's. They were tied in Sri Lanka.
But hey, y'all go ahead and make them Cabelas brothers rich if you want and look at all them pretty stuffed animals. I just choose not to when I can by elsewhere for much MUCH less.
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1st off I like Cabelas a lot. Good products, and great customer service.
If this story had ant true merit there would be lawyers involved not a boycott.
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Fl_skibum,
Your link for the item on Cabelas comes up with a blank. If you search for "truck bed extender" (the description on Harbor Freight) on Cabelas website it returns an ATV carrier for $119. Ease up on the accusations.
My sense is that Cabelas is very cheap on things that are widely available, but mark up less common items. I don't have a problem with this--they got to make money somewhere. Harbor Freight is now marketing a whole line of power tools that are incredibly cheap, low-quality, Chinese production. Having tried two of such tools, I'm not buying anymore unless I am purchasing them for one-time use.
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BTW, the boycott Cabelas website just makes me want to put in an order today. Reading between the lines: an employee was involved in a white supremacist anti-imigration rally. Said employee is fired. This makes Cabelas "the World's foremost Civil Rights Suppressor."
If Cabelas fired an employee because he was involved in an Aryan-rights group, then I'll double my order from them.
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Before I would change my buying habits I would like to know more about the reason I'm changing! Bold faced propaganda (what I believe that you have put in your message to us) is difficult to distinguish from the actual and complete truth. Sounds like a case of mutual charracter assination to me.
What was in those leaflets that guy was distributing that would cause such an uproar? If you're trying to convince me that this all occurred because of a simple confrontation with an hispanic traffic oficer,...sorry, no sale! At least not now!
Ol Bill
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I saw nothing that indicated Cabela's was in the wrong. The employee should have read the terms of employment statement on the application prior to signing it. Bet there is a statement there saying something along the lines of you can be terminated for any statements or actions that detract from the coporate image commited on or off the company property.
I shop at both my local shops and Cabela's. Sure seems strange that those of you who hate Cabela's sure love to get their catalogs. Now I'm not the best speller in the world but I sure can read. I read things like the labels on the products I buy. Since I read labels I have discovered that the local fly shop does indeed sell some items made overseas and Cabela's does indeed sell some items made in the U.S.A. Nuff said.
R.I.F. Reading Is Fundamental
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Eric "nighthawk"
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Interesting thread.
JC Shame on you, confusing the issue with facts.
History on the Aryan Nation is that it was (is) a professed racist and known violent organization. I had come cross them in the 70's and was frightened by their demeanor and actions.
jed