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I can't inject any scientific information into the discussion but I did use level lines when I began flyfishing in 19 mumble, mumble 'cuz it was all that was available where I lived at the time [weather this was the case in the wider world, I don't know].
I remember the first time I cast a DT line, I remember my first sexual encounter, and I remember where I was when JFK was killed. They were all life-changing events!! http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/smile.gif
I can't imagine any reason for using level line. You can get a Cortland entry level line for $19. The level WILL cast better than mono [maybe] but not much else.
This is, of course, my opinion and it may or may not mean anything to you. http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/smile.gif
Donald
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Looks like I will be dumping my crappy level line and going witha DT line if it makes that much of a difference. Another expense....
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To idahofisher,
If you are using a model of flyline where the DT has a longer front taper, then your declaration of easier roll casting is correct. However, as pointed out by jayatwork, that is only true of a few flylines made today. Most still have exactly the same front taper if the same line is available in both DT and WF. In that case, there would be no difference in roll casting until, as has already been pointed out, the rear taper reaches the rod tip. You see, the difference in the ability of lines to roll cast, or mend for that matter, has nothing to do with whether they are DT or WF. It has to do with the front taper. That is why a WF line like the Wulff Triangle Taper roll casts and mends better than almost any DT on the market. The secret is the front taper. Make it identical in the two lines and they will cast the same until about fifty feet. It's amazing the amount of time this myth has endured.
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I guess I am lost, and do not have anything real handy to back up what I recall, but I am thinking that the first 30' of a flyline EXCLUDING THE FORWARD TAPER is used to determine its weight classification. Am I dreaming, or has this changed?
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mantis,
FG, A level taper? You lost me...
SEE:
. Level taper fly lines, while they float extremely well due to their even weight and width, are much more difficult to cast and control than other fly line tapers.
I found this site on the three types (WF, DT Level line), basically cause I was getting messed up trying to say it. Articals words, not mine, so they make sense......sort of. LOL
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she who dies with the most toy's wins.
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dub11,
You're almost right. It is the first thirty feet minus the level tip section which is usually about six inches. By the way, just to cloudy up the waters further, the mention above of ALL lines conforming to the standard is not correct. Lines intended for double-handed rods don't even come close to meeting these standards. In fact, a little over a year ago so-called speylines were given their own classification system entirely.
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I have started an new thread on the Taper Topic entitled Line Taper redux. FYI
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Jr Spey, IMO DT's roll cast better then WF's because of the longer belly not because of the front taper.
Aren't triangle taper lines known for having longer bellies then other WF lines?
I agree they roll cast very well.
Since according to some individuals a level line roll casts well this would confirm this.
Honestly I never fish with a level line so I personnelly have never roll cast one myself but I have not reason to doubt others experience.
Rob
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Lee S.,
See menu selection at left, select FFBasics -> Rod Building -> Common Cents System to see the articles about the CCS. While it may not answer every question in this regard, it will help in the discussion.
Paul
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Idahofisher - a triangle taper fly line does not have a "belly". The head is just one long taper - which is longer than some WF bellies. Heavier line is always turning over lighter line which is the reason they roll cast so well. However, for me they had other issues.
The DT has a long level belly - therefore, they roll cast better **on long roll casts** than the WF. If you get back of the belly on the WF they will not roll cast. However, if you're trying to roll cast within the belly length on the WF there will be no difference between the DT and WF. I think that for years now the front taper has been the same on these two line types, unless you're looking at a bass bug taper or other speciality line.
The "test" has normally been:
Are your casts under 40'? If so, DT is
fine.
Are your cast over 40'? If so, you
should see some benefit in the WF.
I still think that the best way to determine which you *like/benefit from/do best with* is to buy the two lines and try 'em. http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/smile.gif
Of course, just my opinions.
Donald