Re: how to handle rude guide
Jason ~ how about posting that on the "Southeast Fly Fishing Fourm". There are some guides that post there and I'd bet they would like to hear about this, too.
http://www.southeastflyfishingforum.com/forum/
(wondering if maybe THAT guide posts there and needs to hear about it, too!)
For sure, rude stream etiquette is hard to deal with someone who doesn't even know any better much less a supposedly professional guide.
Dale
p.s. I like that idea of throwing rocks into the stream upon leaving!
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You should have found out if he guides for a shop or outfitter and reported him to the boss. The boss usually doesn't need that kind of publicity for his business ~~ rest assured it would have been taken care of.
My only experiences with guides have been extremely positive. Even the outing when we didn't catch that many fish ~~ it was a wonderful day on the water.
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Jason,
You handled the situation just fine! Find out who the Guide is and REPORT him to whoever, everyone you know and everyone you don't know! It sounds like maybe he freelance Guides?
Doug
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I wouldn't have handled it that way. But, I would have wished I had. I think you done just fine.
KUDOS to you.
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Originally Posted by raw69
I have had a similar experience. Once the "guide" had wandered into the pool assuring that neither I nor his client would catch any fish, I packed up and started to leave. As I left the pool I turned to the client and said, "When your guide finishes teaching you how to cast, ask him about fishing etiquette. Although something tells me he doesn't know what I'm talking about." The client then apologized in a very kind manner. My reply was,"Maybe you need to give him a lesson."
My favorite response as I'm leaving is to say to the client,"Maybe you should find a guide that knows what he's doing, instead of one that has to steal spots from a rank amateur." That one usually gets a good sputter from the guide.
I fish for the love of it and usually just leave rather than ruin the karma of the day. It can be so hard to do. I know I'm just there for fun and the guide is there to make money, but these are public waters. It just doesn't cost much to be polite.
rwa69,
Sounds like I could put a name on the guide that you are speaking about. Especially if he guides on the Grand and lives out east. I believe he also part of the "chest thumper" "high numbers" crowd from that other site moderated by the blind guy. LMAO
Here in Ohio we have a whole new breed of pseudo guide, who focus on steelhead fishing with centerpin outfits. They get drifts that can conservatively float for over 100' downstream, and it only takes 2 or 3 of these yahoos to cover the length of a football field, thus removing fishing opportunities for fly flingers or anyone else in the area. My favorite trick is to cast a #6 weighted wooly bugger over their line, and then let them tell me I'm fishing in their spot (50-75' away from where they are standing). Well, I apologize all over myself as I'm reeling in their line with 27 split shots, three flies and a $5 fancy float all tangled up in my leader and bugger. I feel so bad when that happens. Yeah, right.
I hate it when my evil side comes out.
Joe
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Back when I was younger I used to cast right at the SOB. Nothing will shake up a A-hole more than a fly zipping around his face. They usually left soon and actually sometimes apologize. Bullish people usally do not like confrontation. Any more I just plod down to where they are and strike up a conversation with them and try to kill by kindness. If they are complete a-holes I just start casting right next to them on there casting arm side and say maybe we should fish together more often.:shock:
Jim
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HAHAHAHAHA!!! Jim, your last sentence is PERFECT! Gonna have to keep that one, in my hat for the upcoming Steelhead season here on the coast!
Paul
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I have not had many events, but one time, while casting from shallow surf for salmon, I did get ticked off and remember saying something to the effect that, "I'm kinda new at this, I will try to be careful". With that my accuracy went to heck and I guess I did come a bit close. Since they had moved in in front of me, they decided to move to a place not in front of me. Mostly, I have to admit, if something does occur, I do not do anything about it. Have wished later that I had though.
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It's a rare event that anyone even atempt's to crowd me while on stream...But if anything even remotely resembeling what you've discribed happen's to me in the future....All I gotta say is you behaved much more gentlemanly than I will...ALL Knepp's have one trait that is just plain undenyable....and that's a temper that when pushed...does not kool off to quickly...Quite thankfully over the years, I've mellowed considerably...But not nearly enough to have stopped me from spooling that dude and cutting him off at the BACKING!
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Developing a really bad, hacking cough when so troubled will sometimes lead offenders to avoid you. (Fake difficulty drawing breath, hunch over, make your whole torso rack with the cough, etc... Act tubercular.) They don't seem to want to get whatever it is that you have. Pity, sometimes it's just wit. :)
Ed