I agree with Tyrone. You don't know HOW crazy they are, but I wouldn't give up. I would write a letter or call the newspaper, plus try to get a hold of the Rangers. If it happened while you were there, chances are it still is.
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I agree with Tyrone. You don't know HOW crazy they are, but I wouldn't give up. I would write a letter or call the newspaper, plus try to get a hold of the Rangers. If it happened while you were there, chances are it still is.
I have learned a lot about complaints the past two yrs living in a apartment. Dianne, This is how it works!
You file the complaint with the Park Service and THEY File your complaint in the File marked Low Priority!
Honestly people illegally fishing at the wrong time of the day in Yellowstone doesn't even make a blip on the Radar!
I have had neighbors that beat up their spouses, sell drugs, are fugitives from justice and all around idiots, but if my neighbors do anything that is Low Priority, well then there not going to jail and it's on to Plan B.
You have a choice! You can file complaints until your blue in the face but if you want to change things, then the Park Service is going to need Law Inforcement Staff dedicated to eradicating the illegal flyfishers.
I would like to hear from someone out there about SERIOUS problems like the Yellowstone Cutts disappearing because the Lake Trout are eating them or How is the health of the Yellowstone Cutts in the Park????
Thanks,
Doug :D
Not every law that is in place is a good one, but it is and we must abide by them. Now, in YNP, when the fishing closes at a certain time on certain places it is because they need to be closed. I wish more places would do that. Those fisherman have no respect for anything and because I live close and can visit the park anytime, I would spend the whole day making sure their trip is a rotten one. I am not being spiteful, but I can not stand to watch others commit murder while I hold the lines. I rest bodies of water for this reason all the time. The next time I do go back I want healthier and bigger fish. If I spent the whole summer chasing and stressing them then all I would find is a fishless lake or stream full of fisherman.
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Originally Posted by loufly
Is there a consensus about what to do about it??
Why don't they close YNP waters after the weather gets too hot? Is there so much pressure by flyfishers to open the YNP waters, part time?
Thanks,
Doug
Dianne -
I haven't been in the Park much this summer, but I am living on the banks of the Yellowstone River about 35 miles north of the Park, where there is also closed fishing from 2:00 pm onwards every afternoon.
Today in Livingston, the river was flowing at 1830cfs, slightly less than 50% of the historic average, and just a bit higher than the lowest ever recorded on this date during the past 83 years, which was 1760cfs recorded in 1931. Although the river level is getting lower every day now, the daily water temperatures have been improving for the past week, and have been only hitting 67-68 degrees now, compared to as much as 74-75 degrees at the beginning of August.
Almost everyone I see around here is stopping fishing by 2:00pm, I'm happy to say, and if I do see someone fishing later than that I have no problem in telling them the current regulations. Yesterday, we did see one guy and his wife fishing when we pulled our boat up to the boat launch at several minutes past 2:00pm, and when we told them the rules, they promptly packed up their fishing gear, and presumably headed home -- I believe they were from out of state and simply didn't know the regulations -- although they claimed to have a fishing license.
Personally, I'd assume that most people fishing after 2:00pm simply don't know the current closing times, and I see no problem with informing them (in a nice way).
What irks me more than seeing people fishing after 2:00pm is reading in our local paper a quote from a well known fly fishing store proprietor who thinks the 2:00 ban should be lifted because the water tempertaure has now been below 70 degrees for 3 sucessive days (which is the temperature at which the ban can be considerered for removal). It seems to me that when there's only a bit more than a trickle of water in the river for the trout to live in that the last thing they need is for another hundred drift boats coming down over them every hour of the day and night (give the fish a break for gosh sakes, regardless of how it effects his pocketbook, IMO).
John
They are pulling your leg about why they have the 2:00PM cut-off.
The real reason is that the budget has been cut for all forestry and outdoor concerns nation-wide. They can't pay a ranger to check licenses for more than a few hours a day, so rather than leave people to thier own devices, they simply stop everyone from fisheng. The next step will be selling the area to a private concern that will charge you either by the hour, or by the fish to use the area. It's already happened in several places around here.
Think about it. Trout to not need "time to rest". If the water temp gets too warm for them, they will not bite, whether or not there are anglers present.
And it's not really a law. It is a DNR policy. It can be changed much easier than a law can.
For more information on the new travesties being committed by the U.S. Forestry Service, various state DNRs and your elected officials as they try to privatize our heritage, go to http://www.wildwilderness.org/, and http://www.westernslopenofee.org/NoFee/home.php.
Semper Fi!
Do they have "REPORT A POACHER HOTLINE " there?
Because that is what all those fishers are POACHERs
Here is what the Park Service has to cover;
http://www.flyfishingyellowstonenationa ... reams.html
For persons that have never been to Yellowstone National Park, it is 3,400 square miles (2.2 million acres)
I would suspect there isn't a big enough staff to enforce fishing rules.
Doug
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Originally Posted by Gigmaster
Gigmaster, I agree that the term "time to rest" might not be the correct term. Working at the Lodge and just personal summer fishing, I have noticed that on occassion you can still manage to hook a fish in the heat of the day. The problem is, they don't take the fight well at all and reviving them is next to impossible.
My response used to be "You know, there is a reward for turning in poachers." Now I can actually do something directly about it, at least on the Forest.
All you can do is what your conscience tells you to do. And never do anything that might get you hurt.
DG