Re: Photographs of fish laid on the bank - Part II
Hey Jed,
Thanks for the post back - and you raise some good points. And no - I understand it's not an attack on me - just healthy dialogue.
Here's my take on a couple of your points - would love to hear what you think in return...
As far as fish overwintering - in all the waters I've fished - the trout live and prosper year round, so where I fish it's not a concern. I have lived in areas where fish are stocked in the fall and it gets hot enough that the fish can't survive the summers. And yes - knowing the weather will kill them if the fishermen don't - it makes sense to catch and kill them quickly rather than let them die a slow death in hot and poorly oxygenated water.
As far as your question about whether or not it matters if we kill them or someone else kills them - I only eat farm raised salmon, so for that point - you're right - I'm eating a fish that someone else killed. No denying it.
And I recognize some folks gain a certain satisfaction in catching and eating. And at one time I used to understand that pull, but not so much anymore. For whatever reason it doesn't hold the same appeal to me.
But I guess for me - it's more a question of the fishery. If trout are naturally reproducing there, it's not as big of a deal that people catch and eat. Assuming that they leave enough mature fish in there, theres a reasonable chance the fish will help to repopulate the waters.
But if the only way that a fish gets in those waters is if we put them in there - then C&R if more important to preserve the fishery.
And sure, there will be someone who comes around thows more 6" fish in there every spring. But that only makes me appreciate the 16" fish more, knowing that they've survived this long.
But - back to one of my original points - the only waters I've known have never had a naturally reproducing trout population, so it only makes sense for me to C&R every fish as carefully as possible to make sure stands every chance to survive until the next WD40 comes along.
Again - thanks for the dialogue...
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Jim
Re: Photographs of fish laid on the bank - Part II
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Originally Posted by Gramps
To be perfectly honest Jim. I'm content to not actually land the trout. I love the whole act of fly fishing, the setting, the stalk, the take, and the battle. If the trout escapes before coming to net. All the better for me.
If I get no takes it's fine too, because I still have the setting and stalk. More than enough fo me. Plus I have the bamboo doing it's dance, and the silk line singing it's song. What more can a man want? ;)
that's the kind of attitude I love...
sure, I'm guilty of taking a photo or two every now and then...especially if it's an unusually beautiful fish.
but, I also love it when I catch a fish & play it only to have it come unbuttoned right at my feet. it just makes it easier not only in the fact that I don't have to handle it but the fact that it had enough energy to still throw the hook.
anyway, there's a couple more of my cents...
~Randy
Re: Photographs of fish laid on the bank - Part II
i am also perfectly content witha fish coming unbuttoned a few feet before the bank. i just call it a quick release! :lol:
i actually like it better when that happens because i release every fish i catch and if i dont have to get my grubby hands near em' i think its better for them
so the more unbuttons i have at the bank the happier i am 8)
Re: Photographs of fish laid on the bank - Part II
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Originally Posted by Pete Hiatt
Doesn't look like it helped you.
Nobodies been able to do it. Tell me how it feels? With your attitude. You must have experienced it many times.
Re: Photographs of fish laid on the bank - Part II
"Gramps", you and your kind totally disgust me. Fishing is not a sport. Calling it a sport or treating it like a sport DEGRADES it. You belittle and degrade the fish by your cruelty towards them. It is an honorable thing to use them as food. But to use them as a sport is disgusting. Then you pump up your ego by pretending you are other than an insignificant blowhard. What an insignificant joke you are.
Re: Photographs of fish laid on the bank - Part II
Yaaaaaawwwwwn! This is getting old, boys. This is a no-win thread, so get off your computers and go do some fishing before someone loses their temper and gets tossed off the board. Opinions are like fly rods....we all have one. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I remain,
Joseph the Meek? :shock:
Re: Photographs of fish laid on the bank - Part II
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Originally Posted by Pete Hiatt
"Gramps", you and your kind totally disgust me. Fishing is not a sport. Calling it a sport or treating it like a sport DEGRADES it. You belittle and degrade the fish by your cruelty towards them. It is an honorable thing to use them as food. But to use them as a sport is disgusting. Then you pump up your ego by pretending you are other than an insignificant blowhard. What an insignificant joke you are.
Sure tough guy. Go beat up another fish. You're good for the sport. That's right! Sport! We're not caveman anymore foraging for food.
You're not as impressive as you think you are. I've been dealing with lightweights like you all my life.
Re: Photographs of fish laid on the bank - Part II
So we have cavemen on one side and Gramps, Teddy Kennedy & Nanci Pelosi on the other. Gee, which side do I prefer?
Re: Photographs of fish laid on the bank - Part II
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Originally Posted by Pete Hiatt
So we have cavemen on one side and Gramps, Teddy Kennedy & Nanci Pelosi on the other. Gee, which side do I prefer?
Listen, I don't care if you kill and eat your fish. You'll never find a post by me saying anything different. Killing fish for the sake of killing them I don't like.
However, your first post in this thread was made for reaction. That's trolling. I have a weak spot for reacting to trolls. If that was your goal? Nice going.
Now, lets drop this. It's going nowhere.
Re: Photographs of fish laid on the bank - Part II
I have NO respect for C&R. It is not natural. Fishing should never be considered a sport. That lessens what is natural. Your antagonistic reply is wimpy. I have NO respect for you either. Grow up.