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Wytroutbum, Pardon my rudeness. I did not notice you are new to the board. So here's a big WELCOME ABOARD to the absolute best fly fishing site in the WWW. Feel free to jump right in with questions, comments, suggestions or whatever suits you. Oh yeah, new guy makes the fire and gets the coffee. Jim
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Thanks for the welcome and the suggestions. Happy fishing! GO POKES!
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That great, your ready for that next vise. I will mention a few things to keep in mind, have a budget range in mind, then go look at and try all the vise that fit you budget or sparks your intrest. I can tell you to buy a lot of vises, the ones I like you might not like them and so on. A good list of vises to go and look at would be the following:
1) Regal
2) HMH
3) Dyna King
4) Renzetti
There are more vises available, but these should be a good start for you to go and look at. Again try before you buy and make sure you feel comfortable tying with the vise. If you feel you do not have enough room for your hands then move on to another. If you have more questions, just ask. I personaaly will not care which brand that you go with. I care that when you make your purchase that you are happy with it and are having fun tying flies. That really all that matters in the end.
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I recently bought a E-Z Rotary " Zephyr" vise from Hook And Hackle. At about $45.00 I figured I would pick it up for an inexpensive rotary vise to give it try. For an import I was very impressed by its construction and sheer holding power. No its not a Renzetti , which I hope one day to step up to , but for the money its hard to beat. Just my two cents.
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texfly,
I bought one of those a few years ago. Not a bad vise for the money and for smaller hooks. I modified mine by replacing the back tightening screw with a thumb screw which is easier to tighten down. If you want to try that take note that the threads are metric. I took the head to the hardware store with me and "fitted the threads".
Also, be careful you don't tighten the screws down too much as you can easily strip the threads. The jaws are not hardened steel.
Dave
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Vise
Apex vise by anvil its a rotating vise.
Received the vise today, I thinks its a great vise nice and smooth on the lock up and the rotation. Tied a dozen flys so far, I can tell that rotating is the way to go, nice an quick, taking some getting use to, but I think I am going to like it a lot!
Well thats my two cents worth.
Regards
Curtis:tieone:
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Thanks dave potts for the advice. Those little screws are a little tough on the fingers after a while. Have been planing to replace them as well.
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Just FYI a rotating vise is not the same as a true rotary vise. I prefer true rotary. There is an explanation somewhere about the differnece but I don't remember where I read it. I have some decent vises. I just like to buy stuff. I decided from the looks of a cheap vise to buy it. It is advertised as a true rotary. NOT. IT WILL not function as a rotary vise. It's tension knob is metal that screws into a metal shaft and simply locks in place. It is a rotary design with V shape...but can only be used as a stationary vise. You loosen the screw and it just flops.
Having said all that.....I sent it to the brain....Buddy Sanders and he fixed it. It now has a wheel on it with a handle for turning it....and it has had something inserted between the shaft and the knurled tightening screw. It will now function as a true rotary vise. Not my favorite by any means. But for a beginner wanting to experience rotary tying I am probably going to post it for sale on the for sale board. If I do it will be $25 plus shipping and it will be my first post ever to sell something.
Point is....go with what has been recommended. DO NOT go off on your own like I did. As received you couldn't tie a flie on it. No instructions. Cheap foe a beginner....but a beginner wouldn't know how to use it!
I really like the Griffin Odyssey Spider but mine doesn't have the cam lock. I might fork over the $49 for the other head that will go on the Oydessy Spider that makes it a cam lock.
I really like it...but Buddy put a 4" wheel on it for me also and so I can crank it like a fly reel reeling in a fish.
I would go for a Danvise and get Al Beatty's video on Rotary tying...and his book on it also. Pretty sweet.
Oh...the reason Buddy put a 4" wheel cut from a kitchen plastic cutting board on the cheapie.....the small turning knob to rotate the vise was no where near big enough and so the ratio from the turning knob weight and the head itself was just plain not functional.
Anywhooo.....sorry for length.
Gemrod
BTW I have a Renzetti 3000, Montana Mongoose, Danvise, Griffin Oydessy, the cheapie, another one I sent to my good friend because it needs help and I don't know how to fix it....so I have some feel for a middle line of vises. If money is no object go get a Nor-Vise. I haven't tied as many flies as the number of vises indicates. I bought them crazily while in mnourning. I still need to learn how to tie flies. gonna try a Mickey Finn this week.
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Also BTW my first vise which I forgot to mention I have is a Griffin Patriot. My first Montana Nymph looked great as I worked to tie it and make adjustments to get it looking right. THEN rotated the vise head and the OTHER side looked HORRIBLE.
I decided right then and there to get a true rotary. You will see your mistakes if using the rotary feature....and correct them as you go along. Many people suggested learn on a fixed vise or a rotational vise and then move up to a true rotary. I see no reason to learn two other machines before I go to true rotary. Besides if I want to tie one on a stationary vise...I can just lock mine in place and it is now a fixed vise.
And that is what I suggest for readers of this thread. If you are new....I would suggest going straight to a true rotary vise and learning on that.
A rotational vise will not come near doing what a true rotary will do. And the Danvise is a true rotary. Nothing like tying on your vise, and learning how, by watching Al Beatty tie a fly on the same vise you are using. Very convienent. Via his DVD on How to Tie Rotary style.
Gemrod
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Griffin makes a nice line of rotary vices and fixed head vices. Good quality for not too much money. They are made in the USA and have a lifetime warranty. I own three various models and like them all.
I lent my 'Mongoose' model to a buddy to use while his Dyna-King was in for repairs. He liked it so much he bought one, the repaired Dyna King now lives in a drawer....
The Renzetti 'traveler' at $189.95
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...dexId=cat20534
A similar Griffin 'Odyssey Cam' for only $149.95
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...534&hasJS=true
the Griffin 'Oddysey Spider' with thumb screw (which I like more than the cam style) for only $85.95
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...dexId=cat20534
the Griffin 'mongose' for only $199.95
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...dexId=cat20534
the Dyna-King 'baracuda junior' for $339.90
http://www.dyna-king.com/flyvise_dtl...5&pv=0&pid=087
Why not save a few (or a hundred!) bucks and get a Griffin...