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Tim
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CrappieCat: Good Luck. Please let us know how you fared.
Tim
PS - If all else fails try our secret weapon: http://www.flyanglersonline.com/lighterside/cartoon/
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Originally Posted by Panman
Q. How do you tie that one?
A. VERY carefully!!!! :shock: :) :)
Doug,
Your photo didn't come up, but if you are talking about the noble Carp, then, no, they are probably the most difficult freshwater fish to entice to the fly. Incredibly spooky, picky about what they eat, just plain onery to boot.
They are also probably the hardest fighting fish in our lakes and rivers. Certainly they make the longest runs. Fight like bonefish, but are much harder to get to take the fly.
Carp are the only fish I know in freah water where you really need to have a reel with a good drag.
Dudley,
Why shouldn't he believe it? It's true. Once you become adept at finding bluegills, crappie, and bass in lakes, trout, especially stockers, present little problem. There is always a learning curve with new waters and species, but in this case it should be pretty short.
What makes trout 'hard' tends to be 'pressure'. Places where they get hooked a lot, or see a lot of flies. Wild fish in out the way places are pretty easy to catch, it's 'getting there' that poses a problem. Some of the tailwater fisheries out west, the San Juan, Lee's Ferry, places like that you get VERY finicky fish that require technically correct presentations. Almost all of these areas are fly only.
Otherwise, a piece of velveeta on a hook would quickly clean out the whole area.... :D
Buddy
Buddy,
It was just a Smiley, no big deal. Buddy, I admire you a lot, but saying one fish species is easier or harder to catch is not worth arguing about.
Doug :D
8) let me guess... maybe the blue river Huh.
Dark olive marabou size 10 1/124 oz jig with a smaller hares ear or san juan worm as a trailer( 6 to 10 inches behind jig). Fish this under an indicater with slow twitch and sit retrieve . If you are not just absolutely slaying them move the indicator up so you you are fishing deeper. If the fish slow down switch the nymph trailer before you move.
The jig matches the local minnows and the nymphs just look edible.
By the way the rig w/out the trailer is also great for crappie after the temperture drops. Try chatruese or orange marabou Good luck
OkFF,
No I live in Altus, and they stock the Altus-Lugart Lake below the dam starting Nov 1.....but I like your thinkin'....I do plan on making a trip to the Blue River when I get a chance! :D
And thanks for the advise.
Carl,
Sounds like OKFF nailed it. If that doesn?t work, and I don?t know why it wouldn?t, here are some more ideas (and ramblings).
If you want to try dries, start out with a 14 on top and a ptn on the dropper (if legal to fish w/ 2 flies). Current seams, foam lines, eddys, shadowed areas with over head cover and the heads or tails of pools are good places to plunk one down. If you?re not getting any action drifting over slow water, try a larger #10 or 12 heavily hackled fly and twitch it to see if you can tick one off enough to whack it.
I once fished dries in a pool below a bridge in Tennessee with no luck, or any sign of fish for about ? an hour. A young girl came along and emptied a bag of Cheeze Doodles into the water from the bridge, and out of no where the water erupted with a feeding frenzy of a bazillion trout rocketing up from the bottom. I guess it looked like feeding time at their old address. I?ve carried a couple of big orange stimulators with me ever since in case another doodle hatch breaks out.. Anyway, twitching a dry can sometimes work.
If no luck on top, in 3? of water or deeper, I?d go OKFF sugesstion or a bead head bugger or large dark BH nymph like a Prince, with a smaller unweighted PTN trailer, or a single streamer, like a marabou muddler. I?d try and fish it just off the bottom with a twitch retrieve, pausing before the retrieve and counting Mississippis to know where the bottom is, or where the fish are holding. Since you mentioned you?ll be fishing below the dam, a white marabou muddler could be good too if the lake has shad that spill over.
For shallower water, or to fish subsurface but higher in the water column you may want to pick up a few size 14 orange and/or green Lafontaine Caddis Sparkle Pupae like this http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytyin ... fotw.html. Caddis are a very important part of a wild trout?s diet, ? and? don?t tell any one, but this also kinda looks like an egg pattern/hatchery pellet. Try fishing them down and across stream on the swing like a wet fly, maybe giving it a little twitch or two once in awhile. With a couple of micro shot, you can fish them deeper too, and/or see if you can find some that are weighted.
A couple of times I?ve caught stockies with cigarette butts in their bellies, and once caught a stocked rainbow about 10? long (on a muddler) that had 6 white rocks the size of marbles inside. The sparkle pupa kinda looks like them too.
Good luck! We?re looking forward to the report
peregrines
Doug,
Nothing about fishing is really worth arguing about.
I just like to beard the lion in his den at times, for the fun, you know....
Gotta stir that pot...
Buddy
And if all else fails, keep some bare hooks and Power Baits close by. Yes, I have done that in a pinch, just to avaid the skunk. i have even used canned corn...all with the fly rod, so you are technically fly fishing for trout. :roll: :roll:
As the old sailor once said, "any port in the storm."
Joseph the Resourceful
P.S. One fine day a friend and I seined hellgramites in the riffles and "lobbed" them into deep pools with our fly rods for smallies. Now THAT, friends & neighbors, was a hoot! (Did I tell you folks I was not a purist?)
CrappieCatQuote:
Originally Posted by CRAPPIECAT
I expect that you will be fishing Quartz Mountain. Try heading over to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blueriverflyfishers/ There are alot of folks there with expertise that should translate well on the Quartz Mountain fishery.