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Scud Patterns
Looking for easy scud patterns, I searched through the flys of the week and found on by the late Mr. Campbell, but I was looking for something a little more simple. I am sure there are patterns on this site that I haven't found. Thanks.
Drew
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A bum-legged old man and a drunk. That's all you got?
That's WHAT I got.
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On your favorite scud hook, dub your favorite shaggy, scud-colored dubbing and then pick-out the bottom.
Can embellish with tails (I use PT fibers or a whisp of marabou), ribbing (wire, mono) and even a shiny back (plastic bag, UV hardener, epoxy).
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Try the Ray Charles, in Al's Too Simple flies: [url=http://www.flyanglersonline.com/alcampbell/ac022304.html:0b3cf]http://www.flyanglersonline.com/alcampbell/ac022304.html[/url:0b3cf]
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LadyFisher, Publisher of
FAOL
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Thanks to both of you, I look forward to more advice/patterns, but the cool thing about this site is how quickly people answer your questions. Even questions as simple as mine, which have probably been answered a million times, thanks. Recently I have been reading some of Mr. Campbell's articles and tying instructions, I see why he had the impact on so many people, wish I had the chance to get to know him.
Drew
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A bum-legged old man and a drunk. That's all you got?
That's WHAT I got.
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Here is another of Al's scuds. I don't know if this is the one you saw or not.
[url=http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/beginners/part10.html:597bf]http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/beginners/part10.html[/url:597bf]
The tying procedure is the same as how I tie mine, only the materials differ.
I have used a straight shanked hook, SLF dubbing, clear pastic bag for the shellback, and a monofilament rib.
Good luck,
Warmouth
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RG showed me a scud pattern back in march that is just a simple overhand weave (AC called it a Granny Weave in the advanced tying series). Don't let "advanced tying" fool you, this is really easy to do, I learned it in two minutes. Just tie in two strands of embroidery yarn or other similar material in the color of your bugs, all the way down to the bend, then weave all the way to the eye, tie off, clip the excess, and whip finish. It's that simple. If you'd like, you can add tails, but that's not necessary, they work just fine without. Remember, darker color on top, lighter color on bottom. [url=http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/advanced/part4.html:45807]http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/advanced/part4.html[/url:45807]
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Deanna,
Al's Too Simple Ray Charles scud is just the thing and pretty close to the natural we have here. Our scuds are transluscent so the pearl tinsel for the shellback and white/off-white ostrich herl for the body/legs looks like it would work real good. I still use a silver wire rib (craft beading wire) because I don't want the bream to rip the shellback off the fly, which they will do if I don't add the rib. Not because I think the fly has to be complex or nicer looking. I use a size 10 scud type hook or smaller because that is the sizes of our scuds here. I found that the short shank live bait hook from K-Mart, Southbend brand, works just right for me no matter what scud pattern I tie.
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Robert B. McCorquodale
Sebring, FL
"Flip a fly"
[This message has been edited by dixieangler (edited 15 May 2005).]
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Good information Robert - thanks!
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LadyFisher, Publisher of
FAOL
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Sometimes I do like LWilliams and use a Hare's Ear Scud version with or without a shellback. I just noodle dub some tan hare's ear for the body with about a 4 or 6lb. test mono rib to lock it down, pick out the dubbing on the bottom for tail/legs and don't even use a shellback if I don't want to. I think this might have been a scud pattern used by Jack Ellis but I'm not sure.
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Robert B. McCorquodale
Sebring, FL
"Flip a fly"
[This message has been edited by dixieangler (edited 15 May 2005).]
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Robert, I actually was well into a post after your other one but backed out thinking it was not relavent....but here goes..
Denny Rickards makes it a point of saying do not rib over the "shellback" he uses on his "stillwater nymph"....which is a rather generic pattern and could well represent a scud....He says he definitely gets more takes when the rib is under the shellback....his shellback is a feather...
I have wondered if this carries over to more realistic scud patterns?
He feels the loss of durability is worth it relative to more takes.