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I've been asked to build a spinning rod for a friend. He used a rod that had an under wrap of thread with the guide on top and wrapped with a different color thread. This being my first time wrapping guides this way should the under wrap receive a light coat of epoxy, after color preserver, before wrapping the guides?.
A light coat of epoxy will be easiest to wrap over IMO. The color preserver might be enough to smooth things off too.
Kev
[This message has been edited by Penn. Kev (edited 15 October 2005).]
The answer to your question is no epoxy. Once the under wraps are completed and if you wish to retain the true thread colour, then you must apply colour preserver. I find I get best results by using a 50/50 solution of colour preserver and distilled water done in 2 coats, 24 hours apart. Once dried, then add your guides and finishing wraps, again using the same solution of CP. Give the rod at least 24 hours to dry after the final application of CP or you may end up with a poor foggy epoxy finish. This method should get you the different colours you are looking for and a nicely finished rod.
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C.D.
If the spinning rod is not a light or ultralight, under wraping IMHO is ok. In the interest of saving time and effort, however I would look into NCP thread and do the underwrap with a size larger than "A". Then the overwrap with size "A" will not drop down between the threads of the underwrap.
I havn't wrapped any spinning rods in the past 25 years but I did a bunch for other fishers in the 70s. The colors at that time in NCP were quite limited but there may be more now. The NCP thread looks kind of yucky until its coated...but then it's beautiful.
NCP means no color preservative and IMHO none should be used.
No epoxy or color preservative should be used between wraps. The epoxy is applied after both the underwrap and overwrap are completed. I've never had a problem with insufficient saturation but a thin epoxy might not be a bad idea.
Hope this helps,
Bill
Thank you for the advice, I just finished the last wrap. Laying out the under wraps to shrink in size with the guides and still maintain the correct proportions was a little time consuming but worth it. I've seen to many rods where guides are slapped on, to my way of thinking. I like to do the very best I can, each rod deserves it. Thanks again for the help.
Take your time with the thread wraps (as well as everything else involving the rod building), do not hurry, and when in doubt start over.
If you take your time to do the thread wraps, so they are perfect, you will have a lifetime to enjoy the results.
If you do not take your time, you will have a lifetime, to regret the results.
A really good help is to burnish the underwrap after it is applied, that will smooth out the underwrap so that you have less worry with the ridging of the threads with your guide wrap. i use a very highly polished long and narrow stone and it does a wonderful job. I would not epoxy the under wrap prior to installing the guide. The only concern, and the reason most manufacturers do not do a lot of underwrapping is the lack of ashesion between the final wrap and the rod.