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Standardization?
Again, to the avid/learned/informed on this here BB,
Is there any movement in the works to standardize fly rod weights and actions??. I'm still confused as to just what it is that designates a rods weight and performance. Can a 1# be a tip flex and can a 12# be a full flex?? Can a 12# weigh as much or as little as a similar length 6#??. I've seen graph charts by individual rod manufacturers to explain how THEY arrive at a numerical designation but they didn't imply that these were INDUSTRY standards.
Mark
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Marco....................
Your going the same route as the USA has gone for years in trying to convert it?s people from standard to the metric system. Your beating your head against a brick wall.
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There is a good deal of talk about standardization in all the common cents information. It also provides a method for ways to determine your own standardization. http://www.common-cents.info/
Its pretty interesting.
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Is there a need for standardization?
Are autos, golf clubs, bows, baseball bats, boats, tennis rackets, etc. standardized?
Do rod designers want to be constrained by a standard?
I think that standardization may possibly reduce the individuality of differences between products.
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tailingloop,
I'm thinking this isn't about all products being the same but to use standards in how products and their charcteristics are talked about.
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Guys,
It will never happen, regardless of whether it's good or bad.
If we EVER find a 'standard' language and specs that we can use to describe fishing rods, then we can objectively COMPARE them.
The very last thing ANY rod manufacturer wants is an objective comparison standard. Heck, then the fly fishing folks who aren't 'experts' would actually 'know' what they were buying, they could even make an objective and fair comparison.
Can't have that.
Besides, what fun would that be. Actually 'knowing' how a rod should perform without having to buy it and use it for a while?
Nice thought, but will never happen in the fly fishing, or for that matter, ANY industry that sell products to the consumer.
Bad business practice.
It's all about hype and jargon, you know.
Really, though, it's not all that important anyway. How 'good' does a fishing rod really need to be?
Good Luck!
Buddy
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So how difficult would it be to set up a "standard" jig where the rod would be held by a uniform 3 inches of the reel seat. A 6 oz weight would be attached to the tip via a 12" piece of line. The amount and point of deflection for each rod length could be measured and labeled simply and accurately. This information would give the buyer an indication, at least, of what to expect from the rod in very general terms. No indication of performance would necessarily be implied. And still, I would like to know if a #1 wgt can be tip flex and a #12 wgt full flex???
Thanks for the replies so far.
Mark
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Marco,
If you haven't done so yet, you should really check out the common cents data site mentioned above. I think you'll find it answers your questions.
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Well I think Michigan is toast :roll:
Now back to ....
In the golf industry the lack of standardization is a real issue...IMO worse than in fly rods...anyway shafts are a classic example with flex, torsion, recommended swing speed all being factors
There is a company that sells shafts from many different manufactures and they evaluate each shaft according to their own standards and then they tell us the RSSR [Recommended Swing Speed Range]...so that now all the manufactured shafts can be compared...
Too bad we don't have a single entity doing that in fly fishing :roll:
Looks like Michigan came back a little but still in trouble....
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Bugsy,
And all the time it was right there before my very eyes.Thanks for direction.It certainly was an answer to my post but the next question is by what logic is it NOT APPLIED industry wide. Who would it not benefit or who would it hurt??
Mark