Winding the Thread?

Okay, I've some experience after building about a dozen rods but I haven't tried this and just have to ask a question. The books, videos, etc, teach that you should start the wrapping process by wrapping the thread over the tag end a sufficient number of turns to secure it. This is a similar, if not the same, method used when starting the thread on a fly. Now here's my question:

Do any of you place some type of glue or stick-um type adhesive along the blank to make the thread adhere to said blank more easily? I'm not talking about a glob, just a barely perceptible amount. Any negative thoughts about doing this?

Thanks.

Allan

Allan,
While the occasional fumbling does occure, and thoughts of massive amounts of super glu wander the mind, I'd be afraid to use anything, other than tension, to hold the thread, so I'd have the option of adjusting the wrap, or clean removal. I'd also be leery of any contamination of the epoxy on the finishing. I've found that if I use a longer tail end to the thread, wrap it half a dozen times, or so, then burn the tag end with a cauterizer, I get a firm, smoothe, clean wrap.
Betty

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Trouts don't live in ugly places

I would second Betty's thoughts on the process!!

you want to achieve a consistent color to the finished wrap with whatever your choice of rod finish is and you wouldn't achieve that with any type of adhexive used to hold the wrap.

sometimes, If I have very delicate accent wraps to do, I will run the thread through two water saturated sponges between the tensioner and the wrap and what that does is allows the thread to stretch a little, and it is just enough to tighten it quite a bit as it dires. Haven't had one come loose yet since I picked that trick up from a couple of boo builders.

[This message has been edited by dleo6446 (edited 24 June 2006).]

Bad news to use any sticky stuff or epoxy on thread windings except for your final coating. If you do so, it will make aligning your wraps difficult if not impossible. Just takes practice. Two or 3 winds ,overlap your tag , pull for tension, cut of your tag and carry on using a burnishing tool from time to time if needed.

Tying flies took some practice, so does wraping rods.

[This message has been edited by Smernsky (edited 24 June 2006).]

dleo,
Is it as simple as dampening the thread when you wrap? Does it dry quickly, and not bleed?
Betty

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Trouts don't live in ugly places