I've noticed that people are releasing caught Carp. Is this legal? Is it ethical? Originally being from Wisconsin, I think there they are considered a rough fish and it is illegal to release them.
Erik
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I've noticed that people are releasing caught Carp. Is this legal? Is it ethical? Originally being from Wisconsin, I think there they are considered a rough fish and it is illegal to release them.
Erik
where i live you can release them.
and when i catch them i release them always.
i have heard about some states not allowing you to release them.
you will want to check with your local department of fish and game to see if its ok. :)
in europe they go to EXTREME lengths to make sure the carp gets back into the water alive and well.
i even read once that they would lay out a blanket, so that when the carp came to be landed they would pull it up onto the blanket. where they would gently take the hook out and then revive it for a long time then let it go. :shock:
thats alot to go through for something thats supposed to be a invasive species.
:shock:
but over there they make a huge living/sport out of it so i guess it all works out for them right!
When I C&R ANY fish, Carp, Bass, Gill, Gar, Grennell(Bowfin to some of ya'll) or Trout, I handle them gently and make sure they have revived before going back to fishing. Isn't that the reason to C&R?? Here in Kentucky any and all fish can be C&R'ed, As far as I know.
There are places and there are places.
Dependin on ewhere u are it may be leagal on not to release the carp. You should alway check local regulations. You do not have to feel bad about killing or keeping the carp - two pound female(a small one) can lay over a million eggs each year.There is no such thing as ovefishing carp.
Other contries are different. Carp is native to europe and asia and there are things that keep their populations down so C&R there makes sense, especially that it it most likely the most sought after fish there.
If you think that it is strange consider this: In Japan by law you must instantly kill any spiecies of black bass that you catch. They are considered a invasive spiecies and apprently releasing them alive carries some penalties. I know some folks over here that would have a s...y fit if you killed a largemouth... :lol:
Man, be careful here. I've have seen this topic degenerate into some real nasty, knockdown stuff. The European-style fishermen (and some flyfishing aficionados) are trying to promote C&R and the many others would as soon C&R rats in their house.
Used to be illegal to return them to the water in Iowa but they changed that a few years ago. I personally release any carp (I don't eat) for a couple reasons.
One - I hate to waste pretty much *anything*.
Two - I don't want dead fish stinking up my fishing area.
Three -(Okay, three reasons) If you really think the sportfisherman is going to make any difference (one way or the other) in an established carp population - well that's a laffer. Check the biology.
OOOOOPS.
Thanks HideHunter.
By killing or keeping the carp I meant - Accidental killing or keeping for food.
I myself do not condone waste of the resource regardless of what it is: Want not waste not. If not for the fact that we eat the fish we catch I would not fish at all. As it is the only fish we keep are carp on one trip a year(the water is very clean there),socked trout (they will not survive the summer in this water anyway), crappies and walleys (but only what we can eat) and any other fish that is hurt and bleeding (if legal).In last two months we kept 1 fish even though we fished every Saturday and Sunday.
BTW a agree with anglers imact of carp fishery.
If someone knows how to do that please contact authorities trying to ged rid of carp in our major rivers...
I am quite sure that they would be very greatfull.
Mikie - You won't catch any guff from me about eating fish. I do - often several times a week, year round (we get ice. too :)) I'm a firm believer in the "Selective Harvest" theory.
You mentioned the bass in Japan above. I wonder if things are about to change there. Saw an article that there is a "bass club" now and they are catching lots if 12 pounders and some in the high teens. Guess they are taking the "make lemonade" theory to heart.
As far as the European fishing for carp. It's unbelievable. There are people who keep statistics on where/how/when certain fish were caught (all available through clubs) and plan vacations around fishing for one specific carp (they name them). I won't even try to get into the equipment and bait they use but it makes for some interesting reading no matter where you stand on carp. I've actually fished with the Carp Anglers Group (CAG) an American club based on European methods. Most are great guys. But, believe me, thay can get every bit as fanatical as any fly fisherman.
It's why they make chocolate and vanilla. ;)
From http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild...species/gcarp/
"Grass carp are potentially harmful to native resources. Currently, only triploid (sterile) grass carp are legal for use in Texas, and a permit is required to obtain them. Because grass carp is a potentially invasive species, an angler who catches one must immediately remove the intestines, except in waters where a valid Triploid Grass Carp Permit is in effect. In those waters, any grass carp caught must be immediately returned to the water unharmed. The herbivorous feeding habits of this species make it very difficult to catch. When landed, grass carp are excellent table fare despite their bones."
Maybe this was what you were thinking of?
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From the Wisconsin regs book:Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik Osterby
Rough Fish
Suckers, redhorse, carp, and other rough fish (unless listed as threatened or endangered, p.
12) may be taken by hand or hook and line. However, it is illegal to fish by hook and line in
a trout stream during the closed trout season. (See separate 2007?2008 Spearing and Netting
Regulations). You may return rough fish taken by hand or hook and line to the water.
Rough fish taken by spear or bow and arrow may not be returned to the water. Dispose of
them properly; do not leave them on shore or on the ice.
Obviously you folks don't have silver carp and big heads invading your waters. They are some nasty, and dangerous fish to be boating around. We try to kill as many as we can. Bowfishing can be a fun way to nail a few. There is no way a dent can be made in them. They are LARGE plankton feeders... effecting the natural order of the food chain here. Maybe when you've been whacked in the head a few times while out for a bit of a cruise in the boat, you'll want to fight back too. I don't have any issues with leaving these fish for the birds turtles and critters to enjoy. 8)