FAOL BB http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/ This is the FAOL discussion forum. en Thu, 23 May 2013 12:33:05 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/images/misc/rss.png FAOL BB http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/ Home Water http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50072-Home-Water&goto=newpost Thu, 23 May 2013 12:32:59 GMT Image: http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy294/StreamOfTime_photos/dbpine_zps8d813150.jpg The trout were willing. Dan Braun got a taste of my home...
The trout were willing. Dan Braun got a taste of my home water.

I had a dozen browns follow on my first cast in here

Nothing large was caught but we had a ball in a beautiful stream mother nature made. ]]> Fishing Reports spinner1 http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50072-Home-Water video - Birds Nest http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50071-video-Birds-Nest&goto=newpost Thu, 23 May 2013 03:38:01 GMT The Birds Nest is as effective today as when first fished in the Truckee River by the pattern's originator, Cal Bird, in 1959.





Birds Nest
Hook: Grip 13021BL #12 (or equivalent 2XL medium wire hook)
Thread: Benecchi 12/0, tobacco
Rib: Copper wire, bright
Tail: Lemon woodduck barbs
Abdomen: Australian possum
Hackle: Lemon woodduck barbs
Thorax: Australian possum - in split thread


Video here - please view in HD, if able:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvq3UUDCO7k


Cheers,
Hans W ]]> Fly Tying Hans Weilenmann http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50071-video-Birds-Nest <![CDATA[Tenkara Guide's Fundamentals I]]> http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50070-Tenkara-Guide-s-Fundamentals-I&goto=newpost Thu, 23 May 2013 00:24:30 GMT http://tenkaraguides.com/ten-colors-lab/traditional-tenkara/philosophy/fundamentals-i/ http://tenkaraguides.com/ten-colors-...undamentals-i/ ]]> Tenkara Fishing Golden http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50070-Tenkara-Guide-s-Fundamentals-I Ever see something that makes you heart race??? http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50069-Ever-see-something-that-makes-you-heart-race&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 22:41:01 GMT I did today. I stopped at the pond at work for a few minutes before going home. I was slowly walking towards the pond, trying not to make loud... I did today.

I stopped at the pond at work for a few minutes before going home. I was slowly walking towards the pond, trying not to make loud footsteps, to avoid spooking the fish, as they've been really shallow lately. I get over the rise, so that my head is now looking at the water, but the rest of my body is concealed. I stopped here, and started the process of tying on a foam hopper with a Scud hanging below it.

As I was trying to get these tied together, I glanced at the water, trying to get a read on current conditions, since it's been several days since I've been here. We've had some rain recently, and the water was crystal-clear. I could see sunfish beds. There was some matted algae hung up on the shoreline, blown in from the prevailing winds several days ago. I could also see a turtle sunning itself just off the weeds.

Wait a second. What......is......that???? Just a couple feet from the turtle. Is that.....a....fish?? Good grief, it's huge! Probably 3' long! I've never seen, or heard of, Carp being in this pond. I could see a dark, torpedo-shaped silhouette, with light-colored lips. I wasn't totally sure if it was fish, a figment of my imagination, or something else entirely. I decided to finish tying my bugs on, and quickly. Got the last knot on the hook, looked up, and YES, IT'S A FISH! IT MOVED! Cinch the last knot down, and get ready. What direction is it moving? Across my direction, moving from my left-to-right, angled slightly away from me, following the curve of the bank. Can I get a cast off in front of it without spooking it???

I try as best I can. I never saw a huge swirl and plume of dirty water that would indicate a spooked fish. However, nothing hit my hopper-dropper rig.

I moved over to the corner of the dike holding the pond in, made a quick cast over near the weedline, and my foam hopper was immediately sucked down. A nice, healthy, male Bluegill decided to eat my bug. Excellent! I've been fishing Deer-Hair Caddis bugs with a Scud hanging below it. Now I know the 'gills are aggressive enough to inhale my size 8 hoppers, which are bigger and more visible than my DHC bugs.

I only got one fish from that spot (I can usually catch fish after fish here, but not today). I decided to walk to the west side and see if anything over there wants to eat some foam.

You have to be careful approaching this spot, as there is a sunfish nesting colony right on the bank, in inches of water. I stopped a good 40' away from the spot, and started stripping line to make a cast. I SLOWLY started walking down, while false-casting. To noisy! Several wakes headed for deep water, and nothing took my offering when the bugs landed just two feet from the shoreline.

I went ahead and walked down to the shoreline, and made a cast out towards deeper water. NOTHING.

Then, it happened again. I saw a BIG wake, and part of a tail fin, slowly cruising along. I tried to put my offering out in front of it, but just couldn't get it out there. Maybe if I had my 8wt instead of my 5 wt..... But, my 5 wt is what I had in my hand, and no time to get back to my vehicle to switch rods. The fish, whatever it was, was slowly headed up the little cove of the brook that feeds this small pond. I knew that it would have to turn around and leave. I was hoping and praying that it would turn and parallel the bank I was standing on. I made a cast, then started walking to my left, to be concealed by the cattails. I also kneeled down to further hide my presence. Sure enough, a few minutes later, I see the wake and protruding tail fin as the big fish made it's egress from the little cove. Realizing that my bugs weren't out far enough, I quickly lifted my bugs off the water and tried to make another cast to intercept the fish, but again, I just couldn't get it out there.

I only have a few minutes left before I needed to leave. I decided to cut my rig off, remove the tippet from my furled leader, and tie on a longer tippet, as I felt I didn't have enough tippet between the bug and the leader, spooking the fish. I also decided that since the fish had been spooked by my presence on the bank, I would tie on a Wooly Bugger that I haven't yet had a chance to fish, in a rusty-brown color. I made a cast out, let it sink for a bit, then s-l-o-w-l-y started stripping it in. I got it within 15' of shore, then THUMP! I quickly set the hook, and got to listen to the sweet sound of my leader cutting through the water. I quickly realized I had caught LMB, about 2 1/2 lbs, which is pretty good for that pond.

Unfortunately, I didn't have either of my cameras with me, so no pics or video. Of the BIG fish I saw, I'm thinking it was a Channel Cat probably about 8 lbs or so. I know there are Channels stocked in that pond, although I've never caught one. I've never heard of Carp, Drum, or Buffalo being in that pond, nor have I ever see signs of those kinds of fish. ]]> Warm water Forum AllenOK http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50069-Ever-see-something-that-makes-you-heart-race <![CDATA[Tenkara Guide's Fundamentals II]]> http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50068-Tenkara-Guide-s-Fundamentals-II&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 19:24:03 GMT http://tenkaraguides.com/ten-colors-lab/traditional-tenkara/philosophy/fundamentals-ii/ http://tenkaraguides.com/ten-colors-...ndamentals-ii/ ]]> Tenkara Fishing Golden http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50068-Tenkara-Guide-s-Fundamentals-II C. B. C. ... http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50067-C.-B.-C.-...&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 19:10:28 GMT ... as in Caddis By Committee.

I didn't have much occasion to fish smaller caddis patterns last year, but I'm hoping I'll have more opportunities this year.

So here is a new, yet untested pattern with contributions from the X-Caddis, a Henry's Fork Caddis, and with - golly, what else - a twist of my own.

Incorporate one half strand of antron shuck material in an FEB consisting of one full strand of antron in the desired body color plus a strand of .5 mm StretchMagic.



Secure the FEB to a 2X short dry fly hook ...



... and trim the waste and the shuck to the desired length.

Tie in a deer hair wing.



Tie in and wrap a grizzly hackle.



Inspect from the fishies' point of view.



I did fish a similar pattern, without the incorporated shuck, a couple times last year with good results. Considering the success I've had with a variety of flies based on FEBs with and without incorporated tails or shucks, I have a lot of confidence in this pattern.

John ]]> Fly Tying JohnScott http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50067-C.-B.-C.-... FS: Glass Rods http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50066-FS-Glass-Rods&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 18:13:17 GMT FS Glass Rods I bought these rods with the hope of getting out and chasing more trout and warm water freshwater fish. Over the last several years... FS Glass Rods


I bought these rods with the hope of getting out and chasing more trout and warm water freshwater fish. Over the last several years though I have changed focus completely and have turned mainly to the salt for my fly fishing fix. These rods are in excellent to great shape. Some real classics that will hopefully find a good home in fly fishing addict?s glass collection:


(1) Diamondback Diamondglass 8 ft 4 wt 2 piece (Factory rod, tube and cool flannel rod cover)
Great rod with a bit more power than a normal glass rod. Rod is in excellent condition. No issues no problems. Only problem though is that the aluminum tube that houses the rod has a bend in it. The rod is perfectly fine. Just the tube is bent.
$180 paypal and shipping included Lower 48


(2) Diamondback Diamondglass 8 ft 5 wt 3 piece (Factory rod, tube and cool flannel rod cover)
Great rod that has that classic glass feel. Rod is in excellent condition. No issues no problems. Great trout or even warm water rod.
$180 paypal and shipping included Lower 48


(3) Fenwick Feralite FF856 8.5 ft 6 wt 2 pc (Factory Rod, Tube and cover)
Classic Fenwick. Great for warm water freshwater fishing. Great classic feel
$100 paypal and shipping included Lower 48


Thanks for looking. Please send me a PM or you can contact me at flue_fisker at yahoo.com


Thanks


Adam ]]> Things For Sale flue_fisker http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50066-FS-Glass-Rods Stalking sipping risers http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50065-Stalking-sipping-risers&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 17:59:28 GMT I really like the photo on the Home page, 'Stalking sipping risers', it looks so inviting. The majority of the time, when you find some sippers, with a well placed fly you can expect some instant action. There are those times however, be it on a lake or a river, when no matter what you drift through the sippers, there are no takers. That can be very frustrating but at least you are getting in a lot of casting/placement casting for future sippers who will cooperate. Larry ---sagefisher--- ]]> Fly Anglers Online sagefisher http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50065-Stalking-sipping-risers Trying to identify an older Orvis graphite Fly rod... http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50064-Trying-to-identify-an-older-Orvis-graphite-Fly-rod...&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 14:47:31 GMT Hi All, I am a newbie to the forum, But been building and restoring all types of fishing rods for over 30 years. A few months ago, My wife (Avvid... Hi All,
I am a newbie to the forum, But been building and restoring all types of fishing rods for over 30 years. A few months ago, My wife (Avvid Fly angler) purchased an (alledged) Orvis graphite. THERE IS NOTHING on the blank to support the claim, But the butt cap is stamped with the following information:
ORVIS
8 3 1/2 oz
Graphite II

The Letters were filled with White Paint or similar. It looked like it was stamped with a machine, rather than a hand engraving.

There is an engraved top cap to the Aluminum (?) rod case, some guys name and under it says Orivis Graphite II, It looked like someone had an engraving company do the lettering on the rod case.

the reel seat is metal and appears to be black anodized or similar finish. the blank is certainly graphite- dark Charcoal in color, and typical appearence for a graphite blank. the Handle is cork, and WHOEVER made it used Very Very good quality cork. THE WRAPPING IS MINIMALIST, simple, and whoever did the finish had no clue that there is color preservative available and suggested when wrapping non NPC thread :rolleyes:

She wanted the rod re wrapped. the s guides are in perfect shape, but the stripper is a simple metal type, no Fuji type guide. Looks like an old fashoined bait caster or small boat rod type. My gut says someone either rebuilt the rod, or purchased a "kit" -the seat and handle installed- you wrap it yourself.

I was hoping someone may be able to give me some insight on the history or origins of this blank. It is a excellent performer- handles a very wide range or flies- From small dry flies to medium bass poppers! Like I said, its typical looking dark charcoal in color with that slight opaque look , cork handle, and black metal reel seat/but cap. it's a 2 Piece rod 8.5 ft long and very light.

If I can at least verify the blank is indeed an Orvis, I would be happy. My Wife would be disappointed if the former owner simply swiped a butt cap from a broken rod and used it on this one. -Kind of like the guys who buy the "trail rated" badge for a Jeep that is not supposed to have it- or the Rubicon name on a base Jeep Wrangler's hood..

thanks for any insight!-Will be happy to post photos of its current state if that would help.

Drewski ]]> Rod Building: Cane and Graphite kb2seo http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50064-Trying-to-identify-an-older-Orvis-graphite-Fly-rod... Punch Yarn http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50063-Punch-Yarn&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 13:06:07 GMT Yesterday I went fishing with some wet flies that had punch yarn for the body. On one of my flies after about a dozen small trout the yarn was... Yesterday I went fishing with some wet flies that had punch yarn for the body. On one of my flies after about a dozen small trout the yarn was becoming unraveled. I believe that if the tier does not insure the yarn is real tight or uses a rib this could be a problem for them as well. ]]> Fly Tying Panman http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50063-Punch-Yarn Weekly Fraser Valley Sport Fishing Column http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50062-Weekly-Fraser-Valley-Sport-Fishing-Column&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 06:03:19 GMT Weekly Fraser Valley Sport fishing column for May 20 to 27, 2013 So far in our current series we have covered bar fishing and trolling. I... Weekly Fraser Valley Sport fishing column for May 20 to 27, 2013


So far in our current series we have covered bar fishing and trolling. I know some of you are finding this boring, but bare with me there are times when things need to be pruned back to a bare stock in order for new life to unfold. That being said this week's topic is float fishing. Oh, you don't fish with floats? Perhaps no; or perhaps you fish with them under their pseudonym of strike indicator. Whatever you choose to call it a float/bobber is a float.

Many anglers can trace their roots back to fishing bait under a float. Many anglers, myself included, have over the process of time and vanity dismissed this method of fishing as juvenile; while other have embraced it and taken it to another level.

My first indication that I had misjudged the lowly float was at fraser valley lake, when I watched a friend suspend a fly under the largest fishing float I had ever seen. When I made a comment on the size of the float, my friend replied, "Exactly, that float is so big, that when a trout tries to take the fly down, it sets the hook on it's self."

Some years later I met an older gentleman who was enthralled with my flies, and annually bought two to three dozen from me. Another float fisherman, who loved nothing more than to sit quietly on a dock casting his float and fly with an old Johnson closed faced reel, attached to and antique glass rod. When he passed on from this life to the next, he left me the canvas topped waders that he had used for duck hunting; with a note that read, "You might find these useful, they have served me well since 1948."

Today we have a small army of float fishermen; although they don't call it float fishing. The word float has given way to strike indicator. Vanity and prejudice have no place in successful fishing; they get in the way of your catching.



The Report

Fishing on our lower mainland lakes is good. For wet (sinking) fly fishing try: Bloodworm, Nations Black, Zulu, Wooly Bugger, Wooly Worm, Pumpkin Head, Micro Leach, Doc Spratley, Halfback, Sixpack, or Baggy Shrimp. For dry (floating) fly action try: Lady McConnel, Tom Thumb, Irresistible, Double Hackled Peacock, Royal Coachman, Black Gnat, Griffith Gnat, Black Ant, or Elk Hair Caddis. For kokanee try: Scarlet Ibis, San Juan Worm, Double Trude, Blood Worm, Kokanee Thriller, Kokanee Zonker or Red Spratley.

Our lower Mainland bass and panfish fishing well too. For Bass try: Big Black, Wooly Bugger, Gomphus Bug, Crayfish, Clouser's Deep Minnow, Lefties Deceiver, Dolly Whacker, Bucktail, Hair Frog, Poppers, Chernobyl Ant, or Stimulator. For Panfish try smaller (size 12 to 16) versions of the above.

Most of our interior lakes are fishing well. For wet fly fishing try: Chironomid, Bloodworm, Halfback Nymph, Baggy Shrimp, Pumpkin Head, Wooly Bugger, Big Black, Dragon Nymph, Sixpack, 52 Buick, or Doc Spratley. For dry fly fishing try: Lady McConnel, Tom Thumb, Black Ant, Water Boatman, Adams, Irresistible, Renegade, or Elk Hair Caddis.

Due to dangerous fishing conditions are withholding the rivers section of this report until safe water levels return. ]]> Fishing Reports fishingnewsman http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50062-Weekly-Fraser-Valley-Sport-Fishing-Column Kodiak Brown Bear Hunt... Pictures Soon http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50061-Kodiak-Brown-Bear-Hunt...-Pictures-Soon&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 05:39:16 GMT Just returned from Kodiak today after taking my son (he drew the fancy tag) to Uganik Island/Terror Bay for what turned out to be a very quick hunt. ... Just returned from Kodiak today after taking my son (he drew the fancy tag) to Uganik Island/Terror Bay for what turned out to be a very quick hunt. We had to wait until the very end of the season because he had his finals for his first year of college to get out of the way... and that worked in our favor this year, in a big way. Many hunters failed to see any bears this years because the cold, very late spring did not flood their dens like normal years.

The season starts April 1 and runs to May 15 but you get just your choice of a 15 day window during the season. Go early and the bears may still be sleeping... Go late and the hides may be rubbed and ugly as trophies go.

Anyway, Riley and I left Kodiak on Tuesday the 7th at noon to catch the tide at Whale Passage. After 35 years of hanging around Kodiak and 20 years of owning a boat there I still always get the tide backward so we beat head-on into the rips and all the way through the pass. Truly confidence-inspiring for any teenage son looking at his old man. He slept much of the way around the island, so he really had nothing to complain about.

Once around Outlet Cape we entered the infamous Shelikof Strait where all good storms go to be born. But we had an absolute mirror for an ocean and the flattest ride I have seen when transiting the area, tide rips in the pass excepted. There was just a high overcast so it was fairly warm and bright. We had just a minor glitch on the ride when we found the midship bilge pump going continuously and Riley did not notice it while I took a short nap. So I had to crawl down between two large running diesels and reconnect the hose, which instantly solved the problem... But the space is small and I am not... And it was very hot between those engines.

Anyway, we got to the start of his hunting unit and turned SE intending to drive 10-15 miles before dropping the anchor for the night. We would be looking for bears the whole way. Inside Cape Uganik on the north side is a small reef and we turned inside it and stayed offshore about three-quarters of a mile. I thought I saw motion on a beach just ahead and Riley immediately found the bear that was doing the moving.

We got a little closer and he decided it would be the bear he would like. Just a mature bear on the smallish side. After we determined the hide was good and there were no places for cubs to hide on the beach Riley got in the Achilles raft and paddled silently to shore, using a couple large "castles" of rock to hide his approach.

I could not anchor the boat without scaring the bear away and wanted to stay close enough to follow the action.

When he got close to shore he paddled out into the open, but the bear had already sensed his presence and when he peeked around the corner of the castle rock the bear was staring at him from about 50 yards. The bear had to go up nearly vertical rock to get off the beach and Riley rolled it right back onto the beach with his first shot.

Because brown bears are brown bears he elected to pay a little insurance and give the taxidermist a little job security as a hole mender.

He paddled back out to the boat as I set the anchor and we got our cameras, knives, gloves, and such ready. The bear fell on open beach, near the top of a fairly steep grade. A smooth rock made a perfect prop and we were able to turn the bear enough and roll it on top of the rock from above. It worked out well and would have been impossible to get the bear on top of under almost any other circumstances.

After many photos with several cameras we rolled the bear off and took away the bear rug... A very long furred, very fluffy sow of seven feet with just a hint of golden tips on a light-medium brown background.

Because it does not get dark until almost 11 we ran into a very protected anchorage for the night and ate ribeye (beef not bear!) steaks panfried in sweet mustard. It was very good.

The next morning we had a hearty breakfast of hot reindeer sausage and cream cheese omlettes before continuing through Uganik Passage East and peeking into Terror Bay. At Hellgeson's; one of the bear camps around which much Kodiak fame and lore has been lived, loved, lied about, and at least in part fantasized; we saw two more bears on the beach. A sow and her older cub with badly rubbed hides were digging in the sand and flipping rocks. A little farther inside we saw two foxes, a true red and a cross. We almost missed four hunters sitting on a rock and glassing for bears just a bit farther inside. At that point we turned and left to avoid disturbing their hunt.

The raft was stowed back on the swim step about halfway to the unit boundary at Naugolka Point and we ran back to town in the same dead flat seas we had the day before. Even the tide was right through Whale Pass on the ride home.

Riley fleshed the skull and made an interesting discovery. The nuchal crest is a horizontal ridge of bone projecting from the rear of the skull and well over an inch long on brown bears. Muscles attach here and longer nuchal crests mean more leverage for jaw muscles. The nuchal crest ties into the sagital crest which does the same thing along the top centerline of the skull. On his bear he found a thumb-sized chunk of the nuchal crest broken out. A couple inches away hidden in the muscle of the skull was a lead bullet turned into a flattened banana and encased in scar tissue.

The headache that bullet must have produced would be a good test of ibuprofen...

Will try to get some photos up soon.
art ]]> Sound Off hap http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50061-Kodiak-Brown-Bear-Hunt...-Pictures-Soon Captain Tony Petrella http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50060-Captain-Tony-Petrella&goto=newpost Tue, 21 May 2013 23:38:06 GMT Attachment 11979This is from todays Sarasota Herald Tribune. Some of you might remember Tony & Kate hosting an FAOL Florida Fish-In
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]]> Sound Off saltydancindave http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50060-Captain-Tony-Petrella Beaver Dubbing http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50059-Beaver-Dubbing&goto=newpost Tue, 21 May 2013 23:13:31 GMT Hi, I normally use Superfine dubbing for dubbing on my dry flies. I happened to be in a Bass Pro shop yesterday and found this beaver dubbing which... Hi,
I normally use Superfine dubbing for dubbing on my dry flies.
I happened to be in a Bass Pro shop yesterday and found this beaver dubbing which should make smoother bodies.
Have not yet been able to use it yet. Anxious to try it. Comes in nice colors.

Anyone used this dubbing? Thoughts?


]]> Fly Tying Byron haugh http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50059-Beaver-Dubbing Prayers and concerns http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50058-Prayers-and-concerns&goto=newpost Tue, 21 May 2013 23:10:01 GMT about our Oklahoma members. After the devastating tornadoes that have ravaged Moore, Oklahoma and other communities. Just offering prayers to all. Jim about our Oklahoma members. After the devastating tornadoes that have ravaged Moore, Oklahoma and other communities. Just offering prayers to all. Jim ]]> Sound Off jimsnarocks http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50058-Prayers-and-concerns